A Conversation sparked by Christopher Locke's 'Gonzo Marketing: Winning Through Worst Practices'. Started by Jeneane Sessum in 2001, Gonzo Engaged was the first Blogger.com team weblog. Let the games continue.
Saturday, April 06, 2002
Small pieces.com & Bombast crossed the channel.together.
Smallpieces for kids en V.F.
Would need some french links to finish a translation ;-)
Smallpieces for kids en V.F.
Would need some french links to finish a translation ;-)
Friday, April 05, 2002
French Tracklist - Vous n'aurez pas les moyens de vous l'offrir ;-)
Fuck Celine Dion !
Colette N°3
Portrait d'un styliste sonore .
Signe la compile la plus snob du moment. Inabordable (28 €).
Le coffret 1,2,3 figure en série limitée et numérotée.
Un créatif culturel ou un mondain ?
Michel est un chercheur de pépites... :
Tracklist et vente sur le site de Colette.
Michel, je crois qu'aux USA certains pourraient bien t'entendre bloguer sur les circuits de distribution du gonzo. ;-)
coucou ! désolé de revenir si tard...
Bonjour Denise. "Joke" = farce, plaisanterie, rigolade".
Pour la définition du blog en français, je vous recommande trois liens récents en français :
douzelunes "Un carnet de notes virtuel et partagé".
Le coup de langue de la grande rousse : "Weblog, joueb, blogue, alouette !
et le dernier très sérieux ;-) : Matthieu Pommier : "Vie, coutumes et usages du weblog au début du XXI° siècle"
Avant de filer, avez-vous lu l'article tout neuf d'Henry Copeland ? Article écrit hier de Paris et pas con du tout...
"Talk is cheap and so is blogging"
Obligé de vous laisser. Henry insiste sur le terme "useless".
J'ai du boulot. La poste française vient juste de me déposer "Smallpieces". Repos au soleil ! A + tard. xtof.
Bonjour Denise. "Joke" = farce, plaisanterie, rigolade".
Pour la définition du blog en français, je vous recommande trois liens récents en français :
douzelunes "Un carnet de notes virtuel et partagé".
Le coup de langue de la grande rousse : "Weblog, joueb, blogue, alouette !
et le dernier très sérieux ;-) : Matthieu Pommier : "Vie, coutumes et usages du weblog au début du XXI° siècle"
Avant de filer, avez-vous lu l'article tout neuf d'Henry Copeland ? Article écrit hier de Paris et pas con du tout...
"Talk is cheap and so is blogging"
Obligé de vous laisser. Henry insiste sur le terme "useless".
J'ai du boulot. La poste française vient juste de me déposer "Smallpieces". Repos au soleil ! A + tard. xtof.
Thursday, April 04, 2002
That is the answer
What they should be doing is making the CDs more attractive to computer users by using the Enhanced CD stuff, so when you put it in the computer you get lyrics, photos, extra personal bits like you suggest. I hadn't thought of them varying this component to create collectibles, but that makes even more sense.
Almost all CDs published in the UK have these on, and production houses have got the cost down to a few thousand a CD to do it. (It's even cheaper if you do it yourself).
Add value instead of subtracting it.
Almost all CDs published in the UK have these on, and production houses have got the cost down to a few thousand a CD to do it. (It's even cheaper if you do it yourself).
Add value instead of subtracting it.
The Golden State (hear that?)
Only a handful of cases have been decided under California's Penal Code Section 502. Lacking judicial guidance on how the statute should work when applied to the Celine scenario, a court would likely look to the legislative history and intent, part of which is spelled out in the statute: "It is the intent of the Legislature in enacting this section to expand the degree of protection afforded to individuals, businesses, and governmental agencies from tampering, interference, damage, and unauthorized access to lawfully created computer data and computer systems. The Legislature finds and declares that the proliferation of computer technology has resulted in a concomitant proliferation of computer crime and other forms of unauthorized access to computers, computer systems, and computer data. The Legislature further finds and declares that protection of the integrity of all types and forms of lawfully created computers, computer systems, and computer data is vital to the protection of the privacy of individuals as well as to the well-being of financial institutions, business concerns, governmental agencies, and others within this state that lawfully utilize those computers, computer systems, and data." (Emphasis added.) In other words, "each" may be an option. A prosecutor could gauge that better than I.
But why limit it to criminal penalties (which require a D.A. or the Attorney General to get involved), when civil actions for compensatory damages - including "any expenditure reasonably and necessarily incurred by the owner or lessee to verify that a computer system, computer network, computer program, or data was or was not altered, damaged, or deleted by the access" - and injunctive or other equitable relief also are authorized for each computer owner who suffers damage or loss from activities barred by the statute? [Subd.(e)(1).] A court hearing such a case also has the discretion to award attorneys' fees to the injured party. [Subd. (e)(2).] If you listen closely, you can almost hear the "tap tap" of legal keyboards, cruising the Celine fan sites, seeking out the plaintiff class.
-Later: Better move to CA first, Jeneane, then give it a go.
But why limit it to criminal penalties (which require a D.A. or the Attorney General to get involved), when civil actions for compensatory damages - including "any expenditure reasonably and necessarily incurred by the owner or lessee to verify that a computer system, computer network, computer program, or data was or was not altered, damaged, or deleted by the access" - and injunctive or other equitable relief also are authorized for each computer owner who suffers damage or loss from activities barred by the statute? [Subd.(e)(1).] A court hearing such a case also has the discretion to award attorneys' fees to the injured party. [Subd. (e)(2).] If you listen closely, you can almost hear the "tap tap" of legal keyboards, cruising the Celine fan sites, seeking out the plaintiff class.
-Later: Better move to CA first, Jeneane, then give it a go.
another reason not to listen to Celine Dion?
Like I needed one. Thanks for this update Kevin. I hope we can garner a class action suit against her. I'd go out and buy it today and crash one of my computers if it would help. The more I think the music industry heavies can't get any stupider, the more I am proved wrong. Don't get me started. I am married to someone who has dealt with this corrupt industry all his life at many levels, me by his side. Signed to MCA for many years, I could scan and link to original contracts that would make you puke. Goes like this: We parade you around the world, work you like mules, and we give you nothing but notariety in return. What, you think you deserve more? What publishing? Oh that's nothing. Don't worry your head over that. You're artists. We'll take care of the business.
The recording industry today is nothing short of a pyramid scheme. And the few who reap the financial rewards at the top must defeat anything that threatens that structure (i.e. the net). To spread the control around the middle and bottom of that structure would mean the destruction of an entire industry as it was built. And I would love to be there to see it come crashing down.
My husband and I work our business within a corrupt industry the best we can. We were pro-napster people, seeing it as an incredible tool, a digital library at our fingertips--what was that chord change? How did that section go? Ah. Would have paid for it too.
As for the hubub over giving music away, I see nothing wrong with throwing a few tunes from a CD online for download, free. You like my work, you'll buy. If you want to put those two or three tunes on your own CD with two or three from another artist, and another, why should I as an artist, label, or record company care? It's the best promotional gimick going.
And how is it any different from what Amazon does with books? You can get up to 20 sample pages for some books, free for the reading, you like it go ahead and order it. If not, go read pieces from another book. How is that so different? Because it doesn't open in acrobat and let you save it to your hard drive? You could do screen clips if you wanted to. But you don't want to. If you like the work, you're going to BUY it. You want to see the jacket, you want it in your collection, on your bookshelf. You want to refer to it in its entirety from time to time.
Here's an out there idea for the taking--you heard it here first. Fill the dead air between tunes with value-add stuff (interviews with artists, outakes from studio sessions, cooking with Bono in his kitchen--conversations, humor, political statements, whatever). Give away 2-4 tunes free for downloading. The real macoy CD has all the tracks plus this new between track shit that makes it worth buying the disc.
this betwen track stuff becomes the meme. Right? Has anyone but me heard the Buddy Rich on the Bus bootleg that's been floating around for years? Buddy ranting at his band day and night, with explatives even RageBoy hasn't uttered yet? Or the Ray Charles gig where the drunk guy comes off on stage and Ray spends a good two minutes trying to get someone to "take the man off the stage."
This is the stuff that could make CDs more than 11 separate tracks joined together by silence. And something that could bolster the worth of any compilation. And how about we get really cool (my husband has no idea I'm saying this shit), and we have more than one version of that stuff between air--Hey man, did you get the one with Sting swearing at his dog or the one with him talking on the phone?
Hell, I don't know. I'm on a rant today. Tell me I'm insane and I'll shut up. Or I probably won't.
The recording industry today is nothing short of a pyramid scheme. And the few who reap the financial rewards at the top must defeat anything that threatens that structure (i.e. the net). To spread the control around the middle and bottom of that structure would mean the destruction of an entire industry as it was built. And I would love to be there to see it come crashing down.
My husband and I work our business within a corrupt industry the best we can. We were pro-napster people, seeing it as an incredible tool, a digital library at our fingertips--what was that chord change? How did that section go? Ah. Would have paid for it too.
As for the hubub over giving music away, I see nothing wrong with throwing a few tunes from a CD online for download, free. You like my work, you'll buy. If you want to put those two or three tunes on your own CD with two or three from another artist, and another, why should I as an artist, label, or record company care? It's the best promotional gimick going.
And how is it any different from what Amazon does with books? You can get up to 20 sample pages for some books, free for the reading, you like it go ahead and order it. If not, go read pieces from another book. How is that so different? Because it doesn't open in acrobat and let you save it to your hard drive? You could do screen clips if you wanted to. But you don't want to. If you like the work, you're going to BUY it. You want to see the jacket, you want it in your collection, on your bookshelf. You want to refer to it in its entirety from time to time.
Here's an out there idea for the taking--you heard it here first. Fill the dead air between tunes with value-add stuff (interviews with artists, outakes from studio sessions, cooking with Bono in his kitchen--conversations, humor, political statements, whatever). Give away 2-4 tunes free for downloading. The real macoy CD has all the tracks plus this new between track shit that makes it worth buying the disc.
this betwen track stuff becomes the meme. Right? Has anyone but me heard the Buddy Rich on the Bus bootleg that's been floating around for years? Buddy ranting at his band day and night, with explatives even RageBoy hasn't uttered yet? Or the Ray Charles gig where the drunk guy comes off on stage and Ray spends a good two minutes trying to get someone to "take the man off the stage."
This is the stuff that could make CDs more than 11 separate tracks joined together by silence. And something that could bolster the worth of any compilation. And how about we get really cool (my husband has no idea I'm saying this shit), and we have more than one version of that stuff between air--Hey man, did you get the one with Sting swearing at his dog or the one with him talking on the phone?
Hell, I don't know. I'm on a rant today. Tell me I'm insane and I'll shut up. Or I probably won't.
Celine Dion could crash your computer
It seems that the music industry is determined to go beyond Gonzo and use Bozo marketing.
Sony have released the latest Celine Dion album using a 'protection' technique that crashes PCs and Macs when the disc is inserted.
Denise, are they liable under this law for $10,000 and 16 months for each computer they crash, or just once?
(4) Knowingly accesses and without permission adds, alters, damages, deletes, or destroys any data, computer software, or computer programs which reside or exist internal or external to a computer, computer system, or computer network.
(5) Knowingly and without permission disrupts or causes the disruption of computer services or denies or causes the denial of computer services to an authorized user of a computer, computer system, or computer network.
As ever, this will do nothing to prevent the CD being ripped and distributed, but lots of people will be upset by this when they put he CD into their computer.
Sony have released the latest Celine Dion album using a 'protection' technique that crashes PCs and Macs when the disc is inserted.
Denise, are they liable under this law for $10,000 and 16 months for each computer they crash, or just once?
(4) Knowingly accesses and without permission adds, alters, damages, deletes, or destroys any data, computer software, or computer programs which reside or exist internal or external to a computer, computer system, or computer network.
(5) Knowingly and without permission disrupts or causes the disruption of computer services or denies or causes the denial of computer services to an authorized user of a computer, computer system, or computer network.
As ever, this will do nothing to prevent the CD being ripped and distributed, but lots of people will be upset by this when they put he CD into their computer.
No, in French the word for "joke" is "englais" . . . .
Tee fucking Hee, an antipodean former British colony joke.
Anyway, last monday was my birthday and a bus driver rammed the back of my four wheeled pride and joy, so that's either a warning not to invest too much sentiment in material things or not to expect your birthday to necessarily suck any less than any other day.
Take your pick.
I am comforted by the law of absolute liability that accrues to any driver hitting another vehicle from behind - hooray! Still, it puts a dent in your joy when you see that big orange bumper surging up in the rearview mirror.
How about that Beam, eh? Bit presumptive of him to assume that *he* is "people" I thought. For all we know he's a bot produced by the Marketing Division of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation.
Indeed, for all *he* appears to know he is a bot produced by . . . . . . well, you get the picture.
Now lemme tell you a story
the Devil, he's a plan
Bag o bones in his pocket
Get anythin you want
More irrelevant nonsense that nevertheless somehow seems appropriate by Talking Heads, aka David Byrne and Friends.
Denver Fletcher
Head of Inappropriate Material Dismissals
blogtank
Tee fucking Hee, an antipodean former British colony joke.
Anyway, last monday was my birthday and a bus driver rammed the back of my four wheeled pride and joy, so that's either a warning not to invest too much sentiment in material things or not to expect your birthday to necessarily suck any less than any other day.
Take your pick.
I am comforted by the law of absolute liability that accrues to any driver hitting another vehicle from behind - hooray! Still, it puts a dent in your joy when you see that big orange bumper surging up in the rearview mirror.
How about that Beam, eh? Bit presumptive of him to assume that *he* is "people" I thought. For all we know he's a bot produced by the Marketing Division of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation.
Indeed, for all *he* appears to know he is a bot produced by . . . . . . well, you get the picture.
Now lemme tell you a story
the Devil, he's a plan
Bag o bones in his pocket
Get anythin you want
More irrelevant nonsense that nevertheless somehow seems appropriate by Talking Heads, aka David Byrne and Friends.
Denver Fletcher
Head of Inappropriate Material Dismissals
blogtank
Wednesday, April 03, 2002
Bienvenue!
Is it true, Christophe, as Geoffrey Nunberg says, that en francais "blog" is the word for "joke?" If so, you must be having a good chuckle!
Cobblers
I only ever read a newspaper article when someone links to it. I never read one on paper.
On the web, we can know how many readers we have, how they found us, and roughly where they come from.
In paper they can indulge themselevs in the comforting illusion of the circulation figures, and pretend to themselves that they all read their column. (I just found out that my blog shows up high on searches for CBDTPA - I'll have to write some more reasoned rants about it - for example the Enron-style accounting of the 'losses' due to copying).
On the web, we can know how many readers we have, how they found us, and roughly where they come from.
In paper they can indulge themselevs in the comforting illusion of the circulation figures, and pretend to themselves that they all read their column. (I just found out that my blog shows up high on searches for CBDTPA - I'll have to write some more reasoned rants about it - for example the Enron-style accounting of the 'losses' due to copying).
Tuesday, April 02, 2002
Boston Globe on Blogs and Micromarkets
Alex Beam writes for the Globe (quoting John Ellis of Fast Company): "'The golf stuff connects directly with about 35 people,' Ellis says. 'But those 35 people really are into it.'" Not that Beam is buying any of it. He exhorts would-be bloggers to give it a go by promising maybe they'll "even be mocked in a medium that people actually read." [Link: Library Stuff]
Merci Jeneane !
Hi all, hi rageboy.
A lot of work today. Like David, I really need to sleep...
Currently trying to find out new "french commutations", "hook" and "pro-create" french "gonzo spirits".
Yesterday, I found out a quite old french funky magazine (published in 1995 by Ariel Wizman - famous french gonzo guy).
Could we say the co-authors of the manifesto have "stolen" one of his "edito" n° 9 : ...
"C'est, selon la façon dont on le perçoit, l'ambition ou le manque d'ambition de ce journal, qui est fier de ressembler parfois à ce que l'internet a de plus utile et de plus délectable : LA CONVERSATION HUMAINE".... "Peace. Love. Rhino".
Gonzo spirits exist in France. But for most of them, it's a bit tough to be heard on french TV ;-)
Sorry for my very poor english. I have first to find out french copywriters.
Thankxxx. xtof.
New french partyblog running on http://www.elanceur.net. You are all welcome in the "international commutations block".
A lot of work today. Like David, I really need to sleep...
Currently trying to find out new "french commutations", "hook" and "pro-create" french "gonzo spirits".
Yesterday, I found out a quite old french funky magazine (published in 1995 by Ariel Wizman - famous french gonzo guy).
Could we say the co-authors of the manifesto have "stolen" one of his "edito" n° 9 : ...
"C'est, selon la façon dont on le perçoit, l'ambition ou le manque d'ambition de ce journal, qui est fier de ressembler parfois à ce que l'internet a de plus utile et de plus délectable : LA CONVERSATION HUMAINE".... "Peace. Love. Rhino".
Gonzo spirits exist in France. But for most of them, it's a bit tough to be heard on french TV ;-)
Sorry for my very poor english. I have first to find out french copywriters.
Thankxxx. xtof.
New french partyblog running on http://www.elanceur.net. You are all welcome in the "international commutations block".
Monday, April 01, 2002
France is in the house
I've added Christophe Ducamp of elanceur.org to the team list. If you see posts in French, you will know that Christophe is talking to us, and to his colleagues in France who would like to follow our conversation as well. Perhaps Christophe or another team member can provide the English translation of his posts so we can keep up too.
Sorry I've been such a slouch lately. I had gotten rather mad at blogging and the whole notion that we might be changing the world here. Because it seems the more we blog, the more fucked up the world becomes. And I don't know if we're keeping it from being even more fucked up, or if the fucked-up-edness is a result of too many charged voices. Or what. I guess I don't know much these days. But I'll be back. I just have to get my head around what's new, which, I feel something is, but I can't quite define it yet.
Marek, we need a nice stream of consiousness world changing post from you about now. Are you back from Poland?
Blog on.
Sorry I've been such a slouch lately. I had gotten rather mad at blogging and the whole notion that we might be changing the world here. Because it seems the more we blog, the more fucked up the world becomes. And I don't know if we're keeping it from being even more fucked up, or if the fucked-up-edness is a result of too many charged voices. Or what. I guess I don't know much these days. But I'll be back. I just have to get my head around what's new, which, I feel something is, but I can't quite define it yet.
Marek, we need a nice stream of consiousness world changing post from you about now. Are you back from Poland?
Blog on.
Sunday, March 31, 2002
Nickles for Net Heads
If you didn't buy your copy of Gonzo Marketing through the EGR link to Amazon that chunks a small pourboire into the RageBoy coffers, then your purchase doesn't count and you will have to try again. I have expressed my irritation at this attitude with Mr. Boy. He complimented me on my ranting style. Now I gotta work on the screeds.
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